nibot ([personal profile] nibot) wrote2005-02-20 10:02 pm

cosmology on a human scale

I came across an amusing observation today. The age of the universe is about 1018 seconds. That's about 30 billion years. The lifespan of a human on Earth is on average 67 years, and there are about 6.5 billion people now alive. The combined lifespan of everybody now alive well exceeds the current age of the universe. You could line people up, side by side in time, and reach back to the beginning of time. On the other hand (no pun intended), if all of these people held hands, they could form a chain about 12 billion kilometers long. Sure, this could wrap around the earth thousands of times, but it wouldn't even make it one-millionth of the way to Alpha Centauri.

It's often said that there are now more people alive than have ever lived. Or sometimes there's a restriction on this statement, like that there are now more physicists around than the total of all physicists before this generation. But this fact is true for any population which at least doubles from one generation to the next, because of the curious fact that if you add up the first N powers of two, you get one less than the next power of two, a fact known and loved particularly by computer engineers, as it becomes obvious when expressed in binary, eg: 10000 - 1 = 01111, e.g. 2^4 - 1 = 2^3 + 2^2 + 2^1 + 2^0.

[identity profile] pbrane.livejournal.com 2005-02-21 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Another one: I think if you take the average mileage of all the cars on earth, it adds up to one light-year per year, so we humans are going the speed of light, net!

coherence

[identity profile] nibot.livejournal.com 2005-02-21 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
I like to cite similar statistics that, while we're so busy moving, we get nowhere! i.e. most vehicles drive in their useful lifetime well over 100,000 miles, perhaps just in the same town. But just 20,000 miles in one direction will get you all the way around the Earth! I'm trying to incorporate this into some motivational speaking.. (-:

Re: coherence

[identity profile] pbrane.livejournal.com 2005-02-21 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
going nowhere fast, indeed. :P

nukes

[identity profile] nibot.livejournal.com 2005-02-21 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Somehow this K5 comment (on the subject of whether we could have a distributed "nuke@home" program to design an open-source nuclear weapon, or similar nonsense) comes to mind: http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2005/1/7/192124/2713/32#32

[identity profile] chiriklo-star.livejournal.com 2005-02-21 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
...help?

never mind... I don't think the non geniuses in your readership were supposed to get that :)

[identity profile] easwaran.livejournal.com 2005-02-21 11:14 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, that's amazing that our time size relative to the universe is so much bigger than our space size relative to the universe.

The last comment though of course depends on there being some sort of exponential growth with base at least 2 in recent history, which is I suppose the surprising fact. I would be surprised if that were true for human population as a whole, but not at all surprised with regards to academics of any particular type. (Though in a couple decades I'll be surprised if those still hold, because the fast exponential growth will have been in a previous generation, and not the recent past any more.)

[identity profile] uniace.livejournal.com 2005-02-23 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
Your observation about the combined lifespans of humans pretty much kicked my ass!

You know, I was trying to figure out, for a piece of writing I did a few years back, the following:
If, starting today, everyone who died got their minds downloaded into a network, how long would it take for the number of living virtual humans to exceed the number of living physical humans? And how long to exceed the number of physical humans who had EVER lived?
I ended up punting and saying "a few decades." Can anybody come up with anything more precise than that?

[identity profile] uniace.livejournal.com 2005-02-23 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
Damn, I forgot; actually my "few decades" estimate was for a total population of 25 billion in the year 2065. It assumed a lower proportional death rate than today's, due to advances in medical technology, and also not 100% of people's minds were downloaded. Some refused on religious grounds, and some "died in such a place or manner that their minds could not be transferred from their bodies before being lost."