nibot ([personal profile] nibot) wrote2005-01-06 11:57 am

Putting old computers to good use

I am trying to get rid of the piles of computer equipment from various sources that seem to be piling up here at Location Alpha -- old PC's (from 486 to Pentium II), basically. They work fine, but we have no use for them. I think the situation is similar in many households around here.

I have heard that computer recycling is pretty much a fraud, with little actual recycling of materials taking place. Typically, from what I hear, "recycled" computers are shipped to some southeast Asian country, some valuable materials are stripped, and the rest is dumped in the river.

I just got back from a week in Baja, and while there I was impressed by how people in remote towns were able to make use of used clothing, electronics, and other items, and generally make good use of meager reasources. It occurred to me that these PC's would probably be fantastically useful to, say, a school down in some small town down in Baja. Indeed, I quickly developed visions of new Mexican hackers cutting their teeth on these venerable machines. A pentium-class machine is perfectly usable for most purposes.

Local SVUSD schools apparently have no interest in lowly Pentium class machines. I am sure, however, that there must be organisations locally interested in such machines. Certainly LAUSD schools would be interested. For some reason the Mexico thing appealed to me... a computer-fixing co-op group maybe a little bit like http://www.freegeek.org/ could set up schools in small towns with Linux-equipped computers made from the table scraps of the OC.

Old computers are definitely useful for the odd project (building weather stations, attaching your thermostat to the ethernet, etc), but I don't think they're worth keeping in storage for that reason... the hardware can be found again if needed.

Some links I have found

  • http://sharetechnology.org/ -- a database of organisations soliciting donations of old computers. An excellent concept, but their implementation could use a lot of work (volunteers?). Plenty of entries for San Diego and Los Angeles.
  • http://www.cristina.org/ -- seems well-established, but a bit of a hassel. They don't really make it very clear who they donate the equipment to, where the local drop-offs are, etc.

  • http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/ -- Craigslist is an excellent community BBS that exists for many cities. See the "for sale" under "computer" and "free"... Also maybe a good place to look for organisations that want donations. Best established in San Francisco and New York, tho.

Ideas?

I will reply to this post with a list of some of the stuff that's potentially available. Some of it I have already found new homes for.

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[identity profile] nibot.livejournal.com 2005-01-07 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
i like your idea. there is a co-op in boston that reassembles bikes and gives them away to people. why not computers?

exactly. [livejournal.com profile] chris_acheson seems quite interested in this too. in rochester i think there's enough of a disparity between rich and poor for something like this to be particularly successful within a small geographic area.

are there real ways to safely despose of electric stuff?

well. i don't know. you're not supposed to send it to the regular dump, because it has lots of toxic flavors, so you have to send it to a special dump. either case, though, amounts to burying it in the ground, where it will remain forever, which i don't find a particularly enlightened means of disposing of anything, really.

i will add "closed resource loop" to my interests list.

[identity profile] kari-marie.livejournal.com 2005-01-06 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Do I have first dibs on the stuff I mentioned I was looking for? :-)

[identity profile] kari-marie.livejournal.com 2005-01-06 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you!!

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[identity profile] heidy.livejournal.com 2005-01-07 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
:-/ I never knew/heard about Computer recycling before...and cannot help but to wonder how many other stuffs here in the USA we throw in the garbage that so many people could use in third world countries. :-( I had my first little job when I was 18 in a seafood restaurant and couldn't believe how much 'good' food they throw away. :-( It just brakes my heart. Like now, talking about which, how many people RIGHT now in those countries affected by the Tsunami wished to at least eat one meal at day. -_- cheeshh... and here we don't appreciate things and waste so many good stuff.This world is rotten. -_- *sigh* Sorry if got off topic.

[identity profile] shamster.livejournal.com 2005-01-07 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
btw - my advisor wrote up atleat 2 (I think 3) of the "business plans" for the coops in Ann Arbor and in Eugene. Thought that would be relevant for some reason.