nibot ([personal profile] nibot) wrote2004-11-03 08:02 am

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Apparently it is time to dispose of certain delusions, and now revel in a simple truth: Most citizens of this country are morons.

[identity profile] nibot.livejournal.com 2004-11-03 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, it's the hordes of people that hate poor people, hate gay people, hate arabs, enjoy war, and believe that not only is the bible the literal word of god, but is also the primary law of the United States, that caused us to lose.

[identity profile] anemone.livejournal.com 2004-11-03 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
It's the poor people who vote for Bush. Are you saying they hate themselves?

The democrats have been losing support of the working-class people for a long time. My theory as to why is because we end up sounding like intelectual elitists. Calling your opponents "morons" is part of the problem.

[identity profile] nibot.livejournal.com 2004-11-03 11:41 am (UTC)(link)
It's the poor people who vote for Bush. Are you saying they hate themselves?

Yes. Either they are aware that they voted against their own interests (in which case they are self-hating), or they are unaware that they voted against their own interests (which brings us back to them being morons).

[identity profile] anemone.livejournal.com 2004-11-03 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Again, this is why they didn't vote democratic. You assume they are motivated by selfish motives.

Perhaps they are not. Perhaps they make choices based on principles. They believe in freedom. They believe in liberty. They believe in protecting one's own. George W. Bush offered them someone who believes in those same things.

Dismissing people as morons because their notion of doing the right thing isn't just looking selfishly at their own benefit is, IMO, wrong. I also believe it reduces your chances of winning over those people.

[identity profile] nibot.livejournal.com 2004-11-03 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
okay, quit it with the devils advocacy in response to my cynicism !

The 3 Gs

[identity profile] ankaerith.livejournal.com 2004-11-03 12:40 pm (UTC)(link)
God, Guns, Gays.