Arnold and UC

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Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger issued a 2004-05 state budget proposal Friday with $372 million in cuts for the University of California system. The proposed cuts would reduce student enrollments, raise student fees, scale back student financial aid, reduce spending on faculty, eliminate K-12 outreach, and make deeper cuts to research, administration, and other programs. UC President Robert Dynes, in a newsletter to UC employees, calls the cuts understandable in light of the state's deficit, but notes that they will have "a very real impact on what this institution is able to accomplish for the people of California."

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poor berkeley...

[emidala.livejournal.com]

why the hell don't they just close down uc riverside? no one goes there anyway, right?

[kari-marie.livejournal.com]

Sigh... And this is the guy that repealed the car tax. Sadly, I know a teacher who voted for him solely because she was buying a new car and didn't want to pay the higher car tax. Ugh.

I know the money has to come from somewhere, but when schools that are already financially strapped get cut even deeper, it kills me. As more of the cost of "fees" (because of course tuition is free for in-state students, right?) are passed onto students, less and less of the lower-income kids are gonna be able to afford it, even if they do their first two years at a JC. Bummer.

education

[fanlain.livejournal.com]

i don't understand how california's education is as cheap it is. i did my grad at calstate hayward - the out-of-state fees there were the same as my in-state fees in PA.

note that the economy in PA is a far cry from CA. not to mention the numbers from way low income families like mine. i'm the first in my family to go to undergrad since my family moved here in the 1800s. i'll be the last for a few generations i think.

[erinmack.livejournal.com]

These new fare hikes ARE fucking depressing, but the Pennsylvanian is right -- even with the increases, UC tuition is less than half at what one pays at Penn State.

I'm glad I'm not a grad student!

the costs of education to the actual poor

[fanlain.livejournal.com]

try doing these costs w/ no funding and no financial aid
and you're working 1-2 part-time jobs just to stay and
you graduate w/ a lot of student loan debt unless you're
very wealthy.

california colleges are WAY cheaper than pennsylvania even
though pennsylvania is predominantly farmers and those on
welfare or seriously low income - with the exception of some
ppl who actually are in the "metro" areas like philly or
pittsburgh who might actually be able to afford these prices?

my father is a mechanic/scrapyward worker earning minimum wage
to support 5 ppl total (including him) and my mother a
high school dropout who didn't work. my dad opted to not take
welfare tho we were eligible b/c he said there are way more
ppl who need it more than we did. imagine if you were faced
with zero money and these costs like so many others - most
ppl who come from backgrounds like mine don't make it through
college. most of my friends freshman year never finished.

i really think many californians have far better situations...
and it's not *your* fault but i wanted to show you some perspective.
i would have been better off leaving my home state earlier, coming
to california and bumming around for a year to gain residency than
getting education in my own state. too bad i didn't know that
years ago and i wouldn't have the student loan debt i have now (um,
essentially paying for a car...)

.................

jc college: http://www.pct.edu/finaid/cost.html

in-state: $298/credit or $4,470/semester
out-of-state: $375 out-of-state or $5,625/semester

(that doesn't count housing, meals, books)

jc in california is like $11/credit?

.................

my undergrad kutztown.edu (one of the cheaper state schools)

Pennsylvania Residents $2,987.00
Out-of-State Residents $6,461.00

and that's if you commute. on campus:

Pennsylvania Residents $5,542.00
Out-of-State Residents $9,016.00

(note the practially similar cost b/w jc and state univeristy)

.................

penn state university (depending upon campus)

in-state $9,621-$10,743
out-of-state $14,467-$20,597

(that doesn't count housing, meals, books)

let's compare that to uc berkeley which is WAY cheaper:

in-state $ 5,858
Non-resident tuition add $14,210 so closer to $20,000

....

unless i finance my family, i don't see another person in my family being able to afford education for quite a few generations.